In this episode of Pod Strangely Warmed, host Rev. Daniel Hawkins sits down with Rev. Dr. Lucretia Facen, Senior Pastor at Saint Paul UMC in downtown Dallas and the newly appointed District Superintendent of the Metro East District (starting in July). Dr. Facen shares powerful stories of Saint Paul's "Body and Soul" ministry to the unhoused, the transformative impact of authentic community partnerships and the importance of loving people—body and soul. From pandemic perseverance to empowering the next generation, Dr. Facen reflects on the joys and challenges of ministry, offering wisdom for clergy and laity alike.